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Moral dilemmas and how to deal

 
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Okay, to choose Veganism a person is probably keenly aware of morality, rather than simply drifting mindlessly through life. However that is not the end, but the beginning.

I used to get very low in spirit because I couldn't do enough and on my bad days I still feel that the weight of the world against my particular outlook will defeat me. Every issue teases out into further complications - not just veganism or vegetarianism. For instance, refusing plastic bags: the products are packaged in plastic to be delivered to the shop even if I am buying loose fruit. I do try to grow my own food but I am not self supporting, not least because there has been a drought for almost a decade.

Living where I do, I have a legal obligation to remove pest animals. This generally means rabbits. (also foxes) Yes, those little fluffy bunnies are pernicious critters. Removal of habitat only works to a small extent. I choose not to poison with !080, a particularly nasty poison. I allow responsible shooters to shoot them and contrary to what some may think shooters can be decent animal loving people.

Ferreting is inherently cruel because it terrorizes the rabbits, and the ferrets can get hurt and lost too, However a ferreter who knows his stuff will break the rabbit's neck quickly and effectively which is not cruel.

Then there are other poisons, including gas which is pumped into the burrows. Since some of this type I understand was used on humans in one of the Iraq wars I know not only that it is effective but the symptoms the creatures are likely to suffer: nausea and going to sleep (permanently).

Mixo is disgusting. A mixo rabbit definitely suffers. Calici looks to me much the same. "Germ" warfare is not nice,

I do not deliberately run over them when they rush out in front of my car. And I feel sad if I do hit one, though death by vehicle is instantaneous and by far preferable to disease or poison.

Alright, I can sell up and go away. No more my problem? But whoever lives here will be confronted with this issue. And I know that s/he will be unlikely to be as concerned for the rabbits' welfare as me.

So, I don't know if I am proposing question. I think it is more an invitation to ruminate upon the issues of the title to this piece.
Who's next?

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`Goodness gracious me, you have to kill rabbits?! I don't even have the heart to poison cockroaches. How much does this law actually require of you? Are you not doing your duty if you put up a fence and get any bunnies on your land to the other side? I'm sure you've considered such stuff, and I don't mean to be ignorant, it's just... so sad.

Perhaps it's time for some civil disobedience?

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`If Ishift the rabbits to the other side the farmer on the other side of the fence is 1, going to be rather annoyed with me2, going to kill them in one of theways described. If I refuse to do any "rabbit control" the relevant department can simply come on to my property and do whatever, then send me the bill for the work as well as the fine for non compliance.

But you have to understand that generally farmers of non animal foodstuffs do wage war against their competitors - the other animals in the neighbourhood.
Hard isn't it?

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`That sucks to have to do that kind of thing.If it was me,I'd move.But then the next person would have to do the same.What country are you from? If the rabbits are native,maybe they could be caught and relocated by animal welfare.

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`I live in Australia. I would love to be able to round up all the rabbits and send them back to France, to which they are native as I understand.
We humans really have made a mess of the world.

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`...this post highlights the problems involving 'alien' imports such as rabbits, foxes, cane toads, terrapins, grey squirrels, etc., as we have removed the natural predators for most of these animals, it is our duty to redress the balance that we have consciously upset, japanese knotweed is a prime example as it takes over whatever environment it finds itself in...hard as it may be to kill small furry animals you have to consider the alternatives...they aren't pretty!...

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