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[slaughter0225 (deleted)]

Can anyone explain the rationale for going vegan due to religious reasons?

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[johnnywalts_PREV (deleted)]

Hi Dear! Welcome to join here, If you wana go with vegan then there is nothing religious reason to left.

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[tripq]

`Spiritual, not religious reasons. Religion to me makes me think of religious dogma. I am spiritual however, and read that we could attain higher spirituality by not eating animals, and eating lighter. "The Joy of Perfect Health". This small book convinced me with health and spiritual reasoning.

[tobeyaring (deleted)]

Well, firstly I am sure there are some organized (as well as "unorganinized"- i.e. one's own "religion"- or set of spiritual beliefs) religions that tout Veganism. Pour example, the commandment "thou shalt not kill"- what does that mean to you? To me it means just what it says, which alsio would include plants (so they should be eaten raw). As far as ethically (which goes right along with spiritually to me) what seems just to any sentient creature is what should be just for ALL sentient creatures. NO EXCEPTIONS. Therefore, if one would not eat another human for ethical reasons, why would one eat a fellow sentient being? Why for any reason would one milk and consume products from another sentient being (unless one were of course a baby suckling from it's mother's teat)? Whay would one eat the fertilized (or unfertilized, i.e. "period") of a different species of sentient being? Because it "tastes good" or is "nourishing"? Bahhhh!!! It's a bunhc of malarkie and we are better off spiritually, healthwise, and sensewise to abstain from all animal products (and ideally to follow that commandment "thou shalt not kill" by eating a raw vegan diet, which I am sure will become easier and easier for all of us here on this beautiful earth.

[raynedropp (deleted)]

`Many are born into or join religions that are traditionally conscientious of the harm caused by consuming animals. To call them "vegan" isn't historically accurate, but it's good shorthand. The Jains are the best example I know of, but the care that is taken to avoid harming anything goes beyond what most of us in the West practice (i.e. sweeping the road with a broom before stepping and covering the mouth with a cloth to avoid harming minute beings, and even avoiding some plant foods to minimize the harm done). The Brahmin Caste (post-Buddhism anyway) has been largely vegan by tradition, and some groups within all the major religions have adopted some form of vegetarianism. More recently, Seventh Day Adventists are vegetarian, and the founder endorsed veganism (as a kid, I babysat for some Seventh Day Adventists, and I don't remember every seeing any dairy in their refrigerator....). My guess is that certain groups within many religions seek a path to higher spirituality, and being aware of the harm we cause is part of the natural progression along that path.

[moocow]

[quote="slaughter0225"]Can anyone explain the rationale for going vegan due to religious reasons?

Hi, I'm a Seventh Day Adventist and original Adventism teaches that we should abstain from eating animal flesh because it is an unncessary indulgence not required for health. We are fasting and eat only that which gives strength, nourishment and a clear mind. We do not for gluttony. Fundamental SDA's believe as per Isaiah 22 since the commencement of the judgement hour in 1844 that eating flesh foods is a sin that will not be forgiven. We also advocate a vegan diet because of the disease in animals today.

Isaiah 22 22:12 And in that day did the Lord GOD of hosts call to weeping, and to mourning, and to baldness, and to girding with sackcloth:
22:13 And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: let us eat and drink; for to morrow we shall die.
22:14 And it was revealed in mine ears by the LORD of hosts, Surely this iniquity shall not be purged from you till ye die, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.


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[gowitheflow]

slaughter0225 wrote: Can anyone explain the rationale for going vegan due to religious reasons?

"to become a vegetarian is to step into the river that leads to nirvana"-----the buddha

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[tinkerbell82 (deleted)]

`I went vegan after watching a documentary about the horrific treatment of cows in the dairy industry. The film broke my heart and prompted me to learn about the egg industry and eventually become vegan.

[laetusvir (deleted)]

veganism to me...(obviously)... is a way of life. In a sense it is a religion. Its a prayer I utter with my fork, a set of existential mores anchored on the shore of compassion. My Elysium lays not beyond my senses in the aether, but here in good health and a clear conscious. life is sacred and deserves devotion, gentleness, and celebration. when I discus veganism i certainly feel as though i am "officiating pontifically" (in the words of Victor Hugo; way out of context), i also tend to have a very evangelical, preacher style of speech, (yeah, i'm that guy), (---- now i have to justify: i'm not pushy but absolutely an entertainer when i talk about food). my sermon is delivered over homemade masterpieces of fine vegan cuisine. anyway, as i was saying, it is absolutely a religion to me; a set of beliefs and habits developed over years of self discovery and exploration. if i must have a deity to worship, then call it life and bow down before the almighty, or jump for joy, whatever floats your boat.

[sable3]

`I went vegan because I learned about the conditions in which the animals live in. I read all I could about it and I was horrified by what I learned. I felt bad just about knowing that this was happening in the world every day and that there was nothing I could do about it. I could not ignore what I knew, so I came to the conclusion that I wanted to become a vegan.

[charlesvegan (deleted)]

I am not religious at all. In fact, I am very much an agnostic. I became a vegan and a friend to all animals a few years after having my first dog. As a child I was extremely fascinated by animals but it was more of a scientific curiosity than an actual concern for their welfare. I was curious but not sympathetic. In fact, I particularly disliked dogs because of what I perceived as an excessively agressive nature. Basically the only good dog was a dead dog as far as I was concerned. Not that I'd killed any but I wasn't bothered by their deaths. I was also a vicious carnivore rather than the gentle vegan I am currently.

This all began to change one day back in 2001 when my brother brought home a small dachshund puppy named Oscar. At first I was apprehensive and distrustful of this creature(It was a DOG afterall!). However, one day my brother and mother went to the store and I was left alone with him. Knowing that dogs and I did not mix, they put him in a large open box in my brother's room and assumed he would be safe and contained while they were away.

I had no intention of going near or paying any attention to it when suddenly it began to cry and whimper. Something happened to me the moment I heard those cries. I had always regarded dogs as vicious and mindless beasts but the sounds I was hearing were not the least bit like those of an agressive animal. On the contrary, they sounded rather pitiful and desperate. I was drawn to them like a sailor to a siren's song.

When I finally approached the box I looked at him and he stopped crying and looked up at me. Somehow I could tell in that moment that not only would he not bite me but that he desired to have my company. I went and got one of the dog biscuits my brother had purchased and offered it to him. He licked it and gave it some small nibbles although he did not eat all of it. I went and took my thick winter gloves out of the drawer because I had the intention of picking him up and out of the box but I was still not 100% sure he would not bite and I wanted to have some protection. I held him rather clumsily for about a minute before I decided to put him back in the box. However, this time I stayed right there next to him and he began to stand up on his hind legs and began jumping to try and get out. He eventually succeeded and I knew I wasn't going to put him back.

If I could point to a beginning of my path towards veganism it was definitely right then and there. I knew in that instant that things would never be the same as far as my relationship with that dog. Whatever attitudes I had toward it were obviously based on misconceptions and misunderstanding. From that point on that dog would cease to be just an animal. He would become my friend. My best friend. To this day we are extremely close and I would gladly risk my life to protect him.

Anyway, when my family came back from the store they saw us together and were somewhat surprised. Over the next few weeks I went out of my way to spend time with the dog and I also decided that I would begin researching and studying canine behavior in order to learn as much as I could about dogs since it was obvious that most of what I thought I knew about them was quite incorrect.

Eventually, my brother moved out and Mother and I formally adopted the puppy as our own since we had been the ones taking care of him for the most part anyway as my brother just didn't have the time. Over time my impression of dogs changed completely. No longer did I view them as vicious monsters but rather a picture of them as complex, intelligent, emotional and extremely affectionate animals began to emerge. I felt very ashamed that I could have been so ignorant and blind to the true nature of these incredible and noble animals. My positive attitude now extended towards all dogs, not just Oscar, and I could not stand to see them suffer or be abused.

Still, my goodwill had not yet extended towards all other kinds of animals and I was still a meat-eater and user of animal products. This all began to change in 2004 when I happened to see an internet video, if my memory serves me it was from PETA, of a young calf being slaughtered for meat. I had seen animals killed before. If you are someone who has seen plenty of nature documentaries like myself you know that it is not rare for them to depict scenes of animal deaths. Still, this one jolted me. The look of fear and anguish the poor thing had and its desperate cries really got to me. It took me back to that first time when Oscar and I met up close. Just as I felt pity for him and was compelled to help him I felt that a gross injustice had been committed. That calf had emotions and felt pain and fear just like my precious doggie did. They were no different.

I went to the PETA website and began looking at all the multitude of videos that they had. I cannot describe accurately how distraught, angry and embarrassed I felt that night after watching all those atrocities being committed by other members of my species. For the first time it really struck me that in order for me to eat meat or wear something made from leather, fur or some other animal product a helpless, gentle and intelligent creature much like Oscar had to be made to suffer and die. I cried. There was no difference between a dog, cat, dolphin, calf, pig, chicken, rabbit, lobster, snake etc.. I saw now that they were all as vulnerable and as deserving of life and liberty as dogs were and as deserving as humans if not more so. They all bled, they all suffered, they all felt fear and anguish and they all died and the worst part of it was that I was responsible for such atrocities. Right then and there I vowed to change my ways forever and to become a vocal and tireless advocate for the rights not only of dogs but of ALL animals.

Initially, I was only a vegetarian as I still consumed eggs, albeit only where the package indicated that the chickens were free roaming and fed normally, and also put milk in my cereal and consumed dairy products as I was unsure of whether or not these products could be safely removed from my diet plus I figured things were alright as long as I wasn't consuming meat. Eventually, however, I realized that the dairy and egg industries also inflicted some form of animal cruelty or were in cahoots with other industries that did. So I removed eggs from my diet and replaced cow milk with soy milk and although I have gained some weight since becoming a vegetarian and later a vegan I have not really become unhealthy. Although I still worry about the poor creatures who suffer at the hands of Man and do all I can to ease or end their suffering, at least I now have a clean conscience knowing that I myself am trying to do all I can to not inflict any more cruelty on the animals of the world.

I can only hope that all those who are still practicing cruelty and injustice will one day renounce their evil ways and begin to seek redemption. We cannot change what we've done in the past but we certainly can repent and try to atone for our errors by not repeating them in the present or the future.

[charles72vegan (deleted)]

Oh, by the way. The poster known as charlesvegan is me. I'm still around but I changed my screenname a bit. Just in case anyone was wondering.